Dia Crabtree & PaganPro.org

2014 brought us many disappointments, but out of those cloudy events there is a silver lining.

The arrest of Kenny Klein on multiple counts of possession with intent to distribute child pornography, and the subsequent allegations of abuse of underage women and girls; the in your face reminder of Marion Zimmer Bradley’s complacency and alleged participation in child molestation while with her husband; continued discussion of Gavin and Yvonne Frost’s supposed support of the use of sexual initiation for minors; the list could go on and on.

As a response to these and other incidents within the Pagan community several organizations have been forming anew or adding councils and committees to address these types of situations. The Council of the Phoenix, started in part by Ariel Monserrat and Literata Hurley; the direct involvement of such groups and organizations at Pantheon Foundation and Covenant of the Goddess; state and regional groups such as Pagan Elders of Colorado. These and others have been forming or addressing this issues on their own.

Dia CrabtreeDia Crabtree and a team of others have taken a different approach and are working on creating an online database of elders, leaders, teachers, authors, performers, etc. This database would include background information and verification of claims regarding education, lineage (where applicable), curriculum vitae and much more. In other words, PaganPro.org would be available to the community as a means to vet leaders, elders, presenters, etc. Visit the site in progress to learn more and participate in surveys that can help build the site. Listen to the show in archives and hear Dia explain the reasons behind PaganPro and how the site will work when completed.


  1. Damh the Bard – Save Me – Spirit of Albion
  2. Omnia – Earth Warrior – Earth Warrior
  3. Cernunnos Rising – The Great World Tree – Urban Druid

Related Episodes of PMP from 2014

PMP: PaganActivist author Lauren talks about Karma

Lauren Nami Ouellette-Bruchez joins KaliSara and RevKess in the studio this evening. Nami is a blog-author on PaganActivist.com along with regular guest Shauna Aura Knight and RevKess. Nami is a student at the Maetreum of Cybele, Mother Cathryn Platine  has also been a regular guest on the show from 2013, Nami was able to sit in on one of those visits.

Lauren Nami Ouellette-Bruchez

Lauren Nami Ouellette-Bruchez

On March 6, she published an article on PaganActivist.com about Karma and the Just World Fallacy. This caught KaliSara’s eye. Along the way they discuss the Hindu/Eastern concept of Karma and how it relates/compares/contrasts to the Western concept as well as how it relates to the Wiccan concept of the Three Fold Law.

Shauna Aura Knight

Shauna Aura Knight

Shauna Aura Knight joined the session around the 45 minute mark to talk about the topic as well as money more specifically. The “obligation of teaching without compensation”. Referencing her own post on PaganActivist.com and upcoming articles on her own leadership blog.

Hour one focused on the main topic of Karma and the Just World Fallacy. Hour two took the conversation in a totally different direction, one leaning towards leadership. Hour three went even further off the title topic into the realm of marketing, budgeting and the reality of being a person in Western culture.


  1. Omnia – Mercy Seat – Musick and Poetree
  2. Celia – Break These Chains – Carry Me Home
  3. SJ Tucker – Cheshire Kitten (We’re All Mad Here) – Mischief
  4. Damh the Bard – Merlin Am I – The Hills They Are Hollow

Audio note: Nami was not able to use a headset during the show, the echo you heard of KaliSara, RevKess and Shauna was due to them being on a conference call via Skype. You are hearing the delayed echo from everyone  over Nami’s speakers.