PMP: Celia, an interactive interview

KaliSara and RevKess decided to try something a little different with this weekend’s edition of PMP. A live, interactive interview with their guest Celia. In this interactive interview the listeners and fans got to help with asking the questions! Though no one braved the lines and called in with their questions, the hosts did receive several questions and suggestions on where to go with the show. To all those who added to the fun, thank you!

Two years and one month ago Celia visited with RevKess on Musica Pagani. That show aired
lived on 10 July 2012. They first connected face to face at her 2012 concert in Omaha, NE at the First Unitarian Church. RevKess reviewed that concert on the Pagan Weekly News on 5 March 2012.

Earlier this summer Celia released the digital version of her new album Shaman Journey, soon to be available on CD through CDBaby. She has toured the new release across the country with 30 concerts in 60 days. Quite the ambitious tour! She’s back home in Prescott, AZ with her partner Charlie who also went on tour with her. The album is the first in a series of Sound Spirals that Celia has been working, recording her live concerts and taking the best cuts of her newer meditative and energetic pieces to create collections of healing and inspiring music for the listening audience. These Sound Spirals came about as a response to the comments from fans that Celia’s music has taken them on a journey, a seeing, or other voyage of inspiration as well as in response to the requests for music that can be used in meditation, reiki, or other spiritual practices.

Celia spoke in depth about her music, her inspirations, her life, and her love. You’ll have to tune into the archive of the show (click the show logo above) to hear about why she does what she does.

Celia’s Golden Rule: Do unto others as others would have you do unto them.


Celia & RevKess, Omaha 2012

Celia paraphrased singer and songwriter Woody Guthrie during the show, “It’s not how good a song is, it’s how much good a song does.” The full quote from Guthrie reads:

“I hate a song that makes you think that you are not any good. I hate a song that makes you think that you are just born to lose. Bound to lose. No good to nobody. No good for nothing.Because you are too old or too young or too fat or too slim too ugly or too this or too that. Songs that run you down or poke fun at you on account of your bad luck or hard traveling.

I am out to fight those songs to my very last breath of air and my last drop of blood. I am out to sing songs that will prove to you that this is your world and that if it has hit you pretty hard and knocked you for a dozen loops, no matter what color, what size you are, how you are built.

I am out to sing the songs that make you take pride in yourself and in your work.”

Celia’s Laughter Yoga Party on the Phone , Monday through Friday at 11:11am. Call 605-475-3200, code 523391#. Follow Celia on Facebook for more details.


  • Ancestor Dance – Shaman Journey
  • Symbol – live version
  • Everyday Goddess – Breathe

Being a talker, a great conversationalist, Celia kept RevKess and KaliSara busy throughout the show. The above three tracks were all time allowed. You can hear more off her music on her website.

PWN: War, war is stupid and people are stupid….

Fair warning, on this edition of the Pagan Weekly News both RevKess and Zaracon get up on their soapboxes. Way up!

War is a topic that no one really wants to talk about. Unfortunately it is the topic on a lot of people’s minds these days. In the United States, the Middle East, Russia, and elsewhere around the globe. Neither Zaracon nor RevKess have served in the military, but they know many people who have or are currently serving active duty. RevKess’s father served over seas during the Korean “Conflict” (War) and several of his nieces and nephews have been in the Middle East during the second Gulf War. War, conflict, strife. It all touches us somewhere and somehow. Whether we are at work, serve in the military, or know someone who is. It touches us all.

Before diving into the meat and bones of the main topic for the show, Z and Kess spoke briefly about crowd sourcing and funding. Taylor Ellwood recently published an article on that very topic on the Agora for Patheos Pagan Channel. The Pagan-Musings Podcast Channel has been a big proponent of crowd sourcing and plans to continue to be so. Having helped with projects for Tuatha Dea, Brendan Myers, Frenchy and the Punk, The New Alexandrian Library, and many others.

“I’m fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in.”~George McGovern

A note about the Israeli-Palestinian War: Heather Greene, columnist on The Wild Hunt and National Public Information Officer for Covenant of the Goddess, encouraged RevKess to reach out to Pagans in the Gaza area. Several false starts later he concluded that technology was not going to allow it to happen. Facebook messages and other attempts met with error messages and software failures. There are Pagans in that area and the hosts of PWN hope to be able to give them a voice in the near future.


Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Call it a conflict, call it a war. The military shambles in the Gaza Strip have been going on for decades, if not centuries. Here are some links to articles that give background and current information on the war in the Israeli-Palestinian area.

More from the Middle East

Russia and the Ukraine

In Pagan News


  1. PWN intro courtesy DragonSong
  2. Culture Club – War Song (clip)
  3. Damh the Bard – Sons & Daughters of Robin Hood – Antlered Crown & Standing Stone
  4. SJ Tucker – Poem of War – Ember Days
  5. Heather Dale – United at War – Call the Names
  6. Paradiso & Rasamayi – Wisdom Warrior – Attuning to Oneness
  7. SJ Tucker – Alligator in the House – Sirens


PMPC: Gem & Crystal Magick

KaliSara and RevKess talk gem and crystal magick on this week’s edition of the Pagan-Musings Podcast. This topic was requested by listeners. Neither host is an expert in the field, but both have personal experience working with gems, crystals, stones, and metals (minerals) in their magickal practices.

Listeners are encourage to suggest topics for the show. Listeners can also make recommendations for potential guests, or maybe even become guests themselves. Such suggestions can be made through the Facebook page for the show or through email.

Books Sited

Stones talked about during the show

  • Tiger Iron: Composed of golden tiger eye, red jasper, and black hematite. Tiger Iron combines the qualities of these three minerals. It can also be used to assist in creative endeavors, prompting the artistic abilities toward wondrous beauty and works. [paraphrased from Love is in the Earth]
  • Mugglestone:  According to, mugglestone is ” also called Tiger Iron is a grounding stone that also brings protection, especially protection from danger. It is also a stone of clarity, particularly clarity of knowledge, enabling one to see the truth below the apparent surface of issues. Mugglestone also helps with creative endeavors and all types of artistic abilities. It is used to bring strength, vitality, confidence, willpower, and balance. It is an excellent stone for people wishing to bring more motivation to their lives. In folklore and crystal healing lore, Mugglestone is said to balance white and red blood cells, increase natural steroids, and improve muscular structure, and help with healing legs, sexual organs, liver, and the nervous system. Mugglestone harmonizes well with garnet, golden labradorite and all members of the quartz and jasper family. Mugglestone is related to the sacral, solar plexus and root chakras. Mugglestone is a combination of hematite, red jasper, and sometimes yellow jasper or golden tiger eye.”
  • Malachite: “[I]s a powertful stone but one that needs to be handled with caution. It is best used under the supervision of a qualified crystal therapist. It is toxic and should be used only in its polished form. Avoid breathing its dust [….] Malachite amplifies both positive and negative energies. It grounds spiritual energies onto the planet. It is believed by some people hat malachite is still evolving and will be one of the most important healing stones of the” current age. [The Crystal Bible]

    Crystal Grids can be used for many reasons and may be as elaborate or as simple as the practitioner prefers. Photo from

  • Selenite/Selenium: Sometimes called TV stone as it was used to make the screens of the older style tube TVs. “Selenite is a calm stone that instills deep peace and is excellent for meditation or spiritual work. Telepathy is enhanced by each person holding a piece of pure-vibration selenite.” [The Crystal Bible] RevKess mentioned during the show that he has used selenite to treat muscle issues in his back.
  • Clear quartz: One of the most commonly found and used stones, quartz in its clear form is a universal stone. It can be used for healing, grounding, cleansing, psychic work and so much more. Clear or rose quartz can be placed on electronics to help balance the electromagnetic fields. Quartz, in its many variations, has 53 pages devoted to its uses and properties in Melody’s book.
  • Obsidian: This tone is volcanic glass. It comes in many colors, each having slightly different properties. “The intrinsic properties of the numerous forms of obsidian include the reflection of ones flaws and the promotion of a clear picture of the changes which are necessary to eliminate the flaws. The energies of obsidian produce blunt answers, focusing ones inner vision and, actually, stimulating a picture or vision of the required course of action.” [Love is in the Earth]
  • Onyx: Onyx can be found in many colors including black, gray, white, blue, brown, yellow and red. “Onyx is a secretive stone that assists in keeping your own counsel. However, onyx is said to hold the memories of things that have happened to the wearer. It can be used for psychometry, telling the story to those who are sensitive to irs vibrations.” [The  Crystal Bible]
  • Garnet: “Named for the seed of the pomegranate, granatum, it is said to be good luck to be given a garnet but bad luck to steal one. Five hundred years ago it was used to drive off phantoms and demonds. Garnet is a powerfully energizing stone that protects you, and is said to warn of approaching danger, but draws harm to enemies.” [Encyclopedia of Crystals]
  • Lapis Lazuli: A dark blue stone with flecks of gold, lapis lazuli is perhaps most known for its use by the ancient Egyptians, the blue markings on the face of Tutankhamun’s funeral mask are inlays of lapis. Lapis resembles the night sky and perhaps is assoiciated with Nuit, Goddess of the night sky, and her Babylonian counterpart Ishtar. Lapis is RevKess’s “power stone”.
The Metals

Image from TheWhiteGoddess website.

Metals are also powerful tools for magick. According to The White Goddess website, there are seven noble metals that were used by the ancients. These metals are copper, iron, gold, silver, lead, tin, and electrum. The latter being a naturally occurring alloy of silver and gold and contains the properties of both.

Copper: Use copper in rituals, spells and amulets to promote love, sensuality, friendship, positive relationships of any kind, negotiations and peace.

Iron: Use Iron in rituals, spells and amulets to promote energy, strength, determination, will-power, assertivity and aggression, fertility-rites, beginnings and undertakings, speed, power and courage.

Gold: Use the metal gold or the colour gold in rituals/spells concerning Sun-deities, the male force, authority, self-confidence, creativity, financial riches, investments, ,fortune, hope, worldly and magical power. Wear golden jewellery to improve self-confidence and inner strength.

Silver: Use the metal or the colour silver in rituals, spells or talismans concerning Moon-goddesses, the female force, cycles, emotional and/or hormonal imbalances, reflecting or neutralizing negativity, dreams and intuition, psychic work and psychic abilities.

Lead: Use lead in rituals, spells and amulets to promote contact with deep unconscious levels (the underworld), deep meditation, banishing negativity, breaking bad habits and addictions, protection, stability, grounding, solidity, perseverance, decisiveness, concentration, conservation, and material constructions (buildings, etc.)

Tin: Use Tin in rituals/spells promoting abundance, prosperity, success in business and in legal matters, stimulation, attracting what you desire, energy, healing, regeneration and rejuvenation.


  1. Lia Scallon – Walk in Beauty – The Luminous Pearl
  2. Cernunnos Rising – Urban Druid – Urban Druid
  3. Paradiso & Rasamayi – Harmonic Ascension – Attuning to Oneness
  4. Frenchy and the Punk – She Was a Flapper – Bonjour Batfrog