PMP 09182016: Godless Pagans

These notes are published in advance of the show. BTR’s description window does not allow for enough detail to do these guests justice.

Taking a break from fiction, KaliSara and RevKess take an in depth look at Atheopaganism, or atheist Pagans, by having a conversation with John Halstead, Cat Chapin-Bishop, Áine Órga, and Tom Swiss. John is the editor of a book called Godless Pagans: voices of Non-Theistic Pagans. The others are all contributors to this anthology.

John Halstead is Editor-At-Large at, a
john-halstead-1community blog for Humanistic and Naturalistic Pagans. He blogs about Paganism at, which is hosted by Patheos, and about Jungian Neo-Paganism at “Dreaming the Myth Onward,” which is hosted by He is also an occasional contributor to and The Huffington Post. John was the principal facilitator of “A Pagan Community Statement on the Environment,” which can be found at He is also a Shaper of the fledgling Earthseed community, which is described at John practices a highly eclectic and localized form of Paganism and observes the Neo-Pagan Wheel of the Year with his wonderful LDS wife and two amazing children.

aine-orgaÁine Órga identifies as a pantheistic Pagan. After grappling throughout her adolescence with a seeming conflict between her interest in Paganism and witchcraft and her naturalistic worldview, she realised in early adulthood that something was profoundly missing in her life—and that something turned out to be a religious practice and a deep and constantly evolving passion for all things spiritual. At her heart, she is a writer, an artist, a teacher, and a traveler of the inner world of the mind. She is currently reading towards a Master’s degree in Religious Studies, and blogs and makes videos on her spiritual path on her website,

Cat Chapin-Bishop has been Pagan since the late `80s, and also Quaker since 2001. Cat is the
cat-chapin-bishopformer Chair of Cherry Hill Seminary’s Pastoral Counseling Department, and her essays have appeared in Laura Wildman’s Celebrating the Pagan Soul, The Pomegranate: The Journal of Pagan Studies, and at The Wild Hunt blog. Cat writes about the connections between Pagan and Quaker practice at her own blog, Quaker Pagan Reflections, hosted at Patheos. She lives with her husband in Western Massachusetts, where she attempts to find peace in the midst of chaos.
tom-swissTom Swiss describes his spiritual path as “Zen Pagan Taoist Atheist Discordian,” which usually baffles questioners enough to leave him alone. He blogs as “The Zen Pagan” at Patheos, and has previously served as President of the Free Spirit Alliance. Over the past decade he has built a reputation as a lecturer on subjects spanning the gamut from acupressure to Zen and from self-defense to sexuality. He is an NCCA-OM Diplomate in Asian Bodywork Therapy, a godan (fifth-degree black belt) in karate, a poet, a singer/songwriter, an amateur philosopher, and a professional computer geek. His first book, Why Buddha Touched the Earth, was published by Megalithica Books in 2013. Find out more about his wacky adventures at

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